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RSI vs Stochastic, which one is better?

The Relative Strength Index RSI and the Stochastic are two well known and used technical indicators; which one is better?

I would be lying if I didn’t answer this question with an “it depends”, but follow me in this article, and we will look at many exciting aspects for choosing between the two indicators.

Sometimes, you may need to use them simultaneously, perhaps as a confirmation, and we will look into this.

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I told you immediately that “it depends” because the choice between the two indicators depends a lot on the strategy you are using and the type of instrument.

While both are indicators for mean-reverting strategies, they have been coded differently and will react differently to price changes.

RSI vs Stochastic in a chart
TradeStation RSI vs Stochastic Chart

It is therefore quite evident that in some cases, it might be more useful to use an RSI while in others the Stochastic.

Both technical indicators belong to the same oscillators family; this means that they are both represented by two lines that oscillate from 0 to 100.

The Relative Strength Index and the Stochastic indicator are both used to identify areas of oversold or overbought. They are leading indicators because they try to anticipate a change in trend.

What are the main differences between the RSI and the Stochastic Oscillator?

The first thing I can tell you is that the RSI set in the same way as the Stochastic will provide far fewer trade signals.

Providing fewer signals makes the Relative Strength Index much safer but, at the same time, challenging to use without changing its period.

As you can see from this chart on the Apple daily chart, the Stochastic signals many entry points, but most of them are not good, while the RSI was better able to identify the overbought areas.

On the other hand, in the oversold zones, the RSI only provided an entry signal that would probably also end with a stoploss. The Stochastic has, therefore, behaved better, which would have allowed us to enter very effectively.

RSI and Stochastic apple daily chart false signals
TradeStation Apple Daily Chart

In this zone, the Stochastic stays in overbought for months as the market continues to rise; the RSI is also early but still provides less false indications.

If I were to decide whether to use the Relative Strength Index or the Stoch Oscillator on the Apple stock, looking at this chart, I would probably use the Stochastic to buy and the RSI to sell.

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Let’s see how they behave with an ETF that is much slower, like SPY, which replicates the US stock market index S & P500.

RSI and Stochastic apple daily chart difference
TradeStation Spy ETF Daily Chart

Same period, same settings, even here I would decide from today to use the Stochastic to buy and the RSI to sell.

You can try it yourself on many equity instruments, and you will see that the Stochastic will always be able to buy better than the Relative Strength Index, and the RSI will still be able to sell better than a Stoch.

Is there a reason? Yes, and it’s simple, the RSI at the same period is slower than the Stochastic and therefore reacts more calmly to price changes.

Equity markets tend to rise slowly, favoring the Relative Strength Index, which is less likely to get confused and will only signal when the market has really risen a lot.

This does not mean that the RSI always guesses the markets’ descent; it means that it does so more precisely than the Stochastic Oscillator because it reacts more calmly.

When the stock markets crash, the price movement will be faster and more intense, and the RSI will never catch a fast price movement like the Stochastic, which is more responsive.

Relative Strength Index vs Stochastic, what is the most used indicator by traders?

The answer to this question, in my opinion, is straightforward, the RSI is by far the most used indicator for trading with mean-reverting strategies and for detecting trend changes.

I have seen many automatic trading systems that use the RSI both as a signal and as a filter, while it is not often to find the Stochastic.

It is objectively more famous thanks to its inventor Larry Connor‘s bibliographic success, with his world-famous RSI2 Connors strategy.

I believe too many algorithms monitor the Stochastic in some way because, as we have said, it is a widely used indicator.

I am not saying that the hedge fund uses our platform indicator to enter and exit the market; I say that everything used by traders and investors is monitored, and the RSI is certainly used by many traders.

Market traders use the RSI and not the Stochastic to understand what investors think and whether they might be willing to sell or buy.

It is mass psychology of the general public, and it is, therefore, essential to use indicators that are widely used for two reasons:

  • in technical analysis, many times, some patterns are self-fulfilling because many people operate the same way on the market.
  • even the institutions monitor those indicators, and it is easier for there to be liquidity at certain times.

These two concepts were much more true 10 years ago than today; now, few markets are so illiquid as to be influenced by a technical indicator.

Anyway, if I can choose between two technical indicators that behave similarly, I prefer the most famous and most used one; in this case, I would choose the RSI.

Why does it work in the stock markets?

Stock markets tend to have a bullish bias, meaning they go up most of the time. Have they always gone up? Will they go up forever? We can’t know, but until now, in the long run, they have always risen.

Therefore, the signal that interests us most is the purchase signal, which, as we have seen, is best selected from the Stochastic.

It is no coincidence that the RSI Larry Connors’ inventor also uses his indicator to buy in the US Stock’s market but setting it to 2 periods.

In this way, the Relative Strength Index becomes much faster and can catch those quick and intense movements that the stock market makes to the downside.

Choosing between Stochastic and RSI to trade Forex

What I have explained to you that US Stocks markets do not apply to Forex Market. There are two currencies in the forex market and the price changes when one currency is more strong than another.

There is no bullish stock market bias in the forex market, and the price movements are also totally different.

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This is why at the beginning of the article, I told you “it depends”, because each market behaves differently.

See how on EurUsd the two indicators move in a totally different way compared to stock.

RSI and stochastic differences in a Eurusd chart daily
TradeStation Chart

It becomes challenging to choose one or the other, yet they have the same settings as before.

Indeed, also in forex, the RSI continues to be less reactive than the Stochastic Oscillator, but the difference is less striking.

We look for confirmation on another instrument; we see the Canadian Dollar against the Dollar, UsdCad.

RSI vs stochastic differences in a Usdcad chart daily
TradeStation UsdCad Daily Chart

In UsdCad, you can see that the Stochastic false signals increase, and the RSI continues to be more reliable.

Therefore, we have seen that in the forex market, the characteristics of the two indicators continue to be roughly the same. The Stochastic is always more reactive and therefore errs more often than an RSI.

But does provide fewer false signals really mean being more reliable?

In the next paragraph, I will analyze this aspect better because it could be misleading.

Which indicator is the most reliable?

Many traders judge a technical indicator in this way, they look at a chart, and if they see that there are many false signals, they decide not to use that given indicator.

The technical indicator is a line; the important thing is the strategy that is built around it.

Look at a 2-period Relative Strength Index for a moment; how many false signals do you see? Would you ever use such a strategy?

Larry Connors RSI Periods Strategy Example Chart

If you need to quickly enter and exit your trades because your strategy is to stay in position for only 5 days, you would never dream of using a 14-period RSI.

You may not be able to use 14-period Stochastic either, but it would still be the best choice.

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So there is no more reliable indicator per se; there is an indicator that can do for you at any given time, and what you need to know is that with the default settings, an RSI will always be less responsive than a Stochastic.

Change the period to make them similar

The RSI indicator and the Stochastic are less different than they seem. In this article, I don’t want to examine the formulas and the code. The graphical analysis will be enough to understand the concept well.

In the figure above, you can see the RSI and the Stochastic on a USDCAD chart daily; as we have seen, the Relative Strength Index is much less reactive than the Stochastic, but what happens if we change the periods of the indicators?

If a technical indicator has a period of 14, it means that it will look at the previous 14 candles to make its own calculations.

Let’s decrease the RSI period from 14 to 3 and leave the Stochastic period unchanged as a first attempt. We also change the values ​​of the oversold and overbought areas of the RSI, bringing them to 20 and 80 as the Stochastic.

RSI period vs Stochastic period in UsdCad Chart
TradeStation UsdCad Daily Chart

This is how a 3-period RSI versus a 14-period Stochastic compares; as you can see now, the signals are very similar. The RSI curve is much more confusing than the Stochastic one because the period used is very short, but we managed to make them very similar.

RSI periods vs Stochastic periods in UsdCad Chart
TradeStation UsdCad Daily Chart

In this other graph, you can see what happens by extending the Stochastic period: the two indicators continue to be very different because that is the essential parameter to change.

If you want to make a Stochastic more similar to an RSI, you will have to modify the parameter relating to the smoothing length, which is set to 3 by default.

RSI periods vs Stochastic periods with smoothing lenght in UsdCad Chart
TradeStation UsdCad Daily Chart

Here is what happens by taking the value of the smoothing length to 14, even leaving the period unchanged: the two indicators are similar again. In this case, the Stochastic is much less nervous, and the curve is even better able to identify the overbought and oversold phases.

Which indicator to choose as a filter

I personally don’t like looking for proper input timing using an oscillator. Identifying a trend change through the overbought or oversold phases can be a very frustrating and unprofitable activity, both using the RSI and the Stoch.

It would be better to use the overbought and oversold areas only as a filter for your strategy; I try to give you some ideas.

You could use an RSI or Stochastic to prevent your trading system from buying when the indicator is in an overbought phase or vice versa from selling when the market is oversold.

The input pattern could be anything, it could even be on another time frame, but a daily filter using an oscillator is always a good idea.

If you are looking for a market reversal, you can use the RSI or the Stochastic to start searching for an entry signal as soon as the price is in an overbought or oversold phase.

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I would make a differentiation for this kind of use, assuming that a trading strategy to work cannot have too many limitations or rules.

If I decide to look for buy or sell signals only in the extreme phases of a 14-period RSI on a daily chart, I will risk not opening trades for months, sometimes years. It would not make much sense to use such a strategy, while on the contrary, if you were to use the Relative Strength Index only to inhibit trading in extreme phases, it would make sense.

With the same reasoning, so I will prefer to use a Stochastic as a filter to search for an entry pattern because this indicator stays longer in the extreme phases.

If we are building an automatic trading system, the best thing to do is carry out backtests over very long periods, preferring the results that do not lower the number of trades.

Ultimately, both operating in a discretionary manner and using an automatic trading system, I would not use both indicators, but I would choose the most suitable by varying the inputs.

When in doubt, as I have said several times, I would always prefer an RSI.

Conclusions

In summary, the best choice between the two indicators is certainly the RSI for several reasons.

The first is that the most used, and therefore, I prefer the indicator monitored by all financial operators.

Having only one parameter is more comfortable to manage even in an automatic system, and the backtests will take less time.

It is less reactive, which I always look for in an indicator, even when it is a trend reversal strategy.

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Stochastic can be useful as a filter because it signals overbought and oversold levels that last longer than an RSI. This way, the system will have more time to find trading signals within these zones.

We have seen that indicators react very differently based on the type of market and how the stock market has characteristics that make overbought and oversold very different from each other.

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